I Love New Mexico

About the Episode:

Something about Abiquiú, New Mexico is just magical, And it seems like no one knows that better than Connie Burkhart and Becca Fisher. Connie’s love for Abiquiú and Northern New Mexico brought her back so many times she eventually decided to stay, purchase the enchanting Abiquiú Dome and turn it into her studio and gallery space. On this episode, Bunny talks to Becca and Connie about what exactly the Dome is, how it functions today and many more reasons to visit the Abiquiu area. 

Links:
Abiquiu Dome 
Ghost Ranch
Copper Canyon Casita
Christ in the Desert Monastery
Abiquiu Lake 
I Love New Mexico blog page
Bunny’s website
I Love New Mexico Instagram
I Love New Mexico Facebook

Original Music by: Kene Terry

Featuring:

Connie Burkhart & Becca Fisher

Abiquiú Dome owner, Connie B. Burkhart, has been using the Dome as her studio show room for her metal designs since 2016. Since then, the Dome has only been open to the public every October for the annual Abiquiú Studio Tour. The dream to open on a regular basis was always there and finally came to fruition in Spring of 2022. Her daughter, Becca Fisher, is the Curator and Managing Business Partner and is overseeing all day-to-day operations. Becca moved to Abiquiú in January 2022 to get the business up and running but is no stranger to the area. She spent every summer of her youth with her family at nearby Ghost Ranch and has always felt at home here.

In addition to Connie’s metal art, other local artists are featured in this one-of-a-kind, earthen gallery space. Despite being a tiny, charmingly odd adobe structure, the nature of the building creates a distinctive environment for each artist to flourish. Since it was built, the curiosity of the Dome’s purpose has created a buzz. It’s a site of roadside intrigue and has always had a shroud of mystery surrounding it. This is a special opportunity to open the door to visitors and showcase talented artists in an original, eye-catching setting. Stop by and experience the magic of this Byzantine-inspired adobe dome!

Bio and photo found at the Abiquiu Dome website 

Episode Transcript

Bunny: (00:00)
Hi there. I’m Bunny Terry, and you’re listening to the I Love New Mexico podcast. Whether you’re a native new Mexican, who’s lived here for your entire life, or you’re just considering a visit, this episode is for you. Join us as we share a lot of New Mexico stories, talk about all things New Mexico, and include topics like what’s magical here, where you ought to visit, what’s happening, and the things you absolutely cannot miss in the land of Enchantment. We’re excited that you’re here, and we can’t wait to show you what an amazing place New Mexico is, because let’s face it, I love New Mexico.

Bunny: (00:50)
We have a couple of guests on the show today that are going to shed some light on a, uh, landmark in Abiquiu, which is north of Santa Fe, that I’ve passed for years and never quite knew what it was. So I’m really excited that I have Connie B Burkhart and Becca Fisher here to talk about the Abiquiu Dome, and rather than me, me trying to explain, um, what it is, I’d love to hear from you. What exactly is the Abuquiu Dome.

Connie : (01:23)
? Well, that, that’s the question of the century. Everybody always asks, and I even did when I used to drive by it, because our family came to Ghost Ranch for the last 31 years, and I would drive by this structure that looked like an observatory or some kind of ceremonial place, and I was never really sure what it was either. So my daughter can fill in all the blanks. Yeah, so it’s, uh, well, we now run it as an art gallery. My mom is an amazing metal artist, um, and she’s a welder and many, many other things, which I’m sure we’ll talk about. But she shows her art there. That’s kind of her studio, gallery space. And then we opened it up, um, a year ago, and we host other local regional artists from New Mexico, um, and around Colorado as well. But we just host a space with, um, just great artists of all different types.

Connie : (02:25)
And, it originally, the backstory of how it came to be is that it was built by Northern New Mexico College out of El Rito. Um, and that was under the direction of Professor Quentin Wilson as part of the Arches Domes and Vaults class. So they built an Adobe project that was emulating ancient Byzantine architecture. He was very, um, inspired by a visit to Istanbul to the Iya Sophia, um, which is now a mosque, but it’s a famous religious structure that, uh, was built by the Byzantines. Um, and they’re the first ones that perfected using a, uh, architecture technique using pendentive, which is what allows you to create the dome structure over a square or, um, rectangular building. So they used the same ancient Byzantine architecture to create the dome out of Adobe, kind of melding two cultural time periods together and processes, um, to create this really super unique dome. They did build several over northern New Mexico, um, but we at the time were the tallest and largest dome structure that they built, and it’s the only one really open to the public that we know of. Yeah. And it was originally built in 2006, right? Yes, yes. And it was owned and built by my neighbor, Lori Faba and Richard Bach. You had to put in for a lottery to win a dome built on your property, and what you, the only thing you had to do is supply lunch for this class that would come to the property and build you a dome. So, uh, it took 10 days, right? Mm-hmm. 10 days to build. And, uh, it was quite, the, the photos of it are amazing, such a community effort in building this structure. And they had it built for Lori’s, uh, an amazing artist.

Connie : (04:31)
And so she used it as her studio seasonally. Um, and their property is adjacent to mine down the road a bit. Um, the dome is located like right in front of property that I purchased, uh, late in 2013, December 30th, actually, 2013. And of course, I always looked at the dome that was in front of my house. And consequently, in my conversations with Lori and Richard I just kind of put it out there as you do to the universe when you have a dream. And I said, if you ever decide to sell the dome, you know, please give me first write a refusal, because I would love to have this really sacred, iconic place. And I, I didn’t think that would happen in a million years. I thought they’ll never do that. It would be like selling the Eiffel Tower in Paris or something, you know? And sure enough a couple of months later, I had come down, I was living in Colorado coming down every other weekend, and it happened to be my father’s birthday, January 16th. I had driven down from Martin Luther King weekend. They invited me over, we walked out to the Chalmer River, we sat on some big rocks, and, uh, Lori said, we’d like to offer you the opportunity to, to buy the dome. And this was in 2016. And, I had been working full-time at a financial institution. I had lost my husband, um, you know, years ahead of that. And my life was kind of in this mold. My dream was to be down here in New Mexico. I had worked at Ghost Ranch, uh, instructing and on staff for many years, and it just, I knew it was the right thing to do, but it was like a trust fall to get, to get here, to have the dome, to create a gallery, to have to do my art as a living.

Connie : (06:28)
It was the scariest, most wonderful thing I’d ever done. So I accepted their offer. That was January, moved full-time in July, so my son graduated cu uh, in May, and it was just boom, boom, boom. So the dome has always been an art gallery studio. Um, many people think it’s a, a might be a mosque or an observatory or a shrine, or a, a chapel. And in a lot of ways it’s this incredible spiritual vortex that, that enables you to just kind of step beyond the now into the unseen world around us. And acu, you step into this place, and it’s, uh, an amazing thin place, I call it, where the, the thin place between the scene and unseen world is very present in this structure. So that’s the quick version story of how I came to be the owner of the dome. And then it sat for many years until my daughter came, and yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Becca : (07:38)
We were, we had always hoped to open it to some capacity. I know she had been a part of the Abaqus Studio tour as hosting out of the Dome Yeah. For years up leading up until our opening, uh, last year. So that was the only time that it was really ever open to the public. Um, so our dream was to eventually, uh, take that on. So I moved here in January of last year. Um, my grandma at the time had dementia, and I was coming out to take care of her. Um, and then she actually passed away two weeks before I moved. So we, just accelerated the process of opening the dome, um, in a way, it’s kind of like a gift I feel like she gave to us to be able to do that. So, you know, we just went full force, um, into that project, and we were able to open, um, right at the end of April into May of last year. And we do weekends seasonally, so like May through October. And then we’re a part of the studio tour in Abiquiu, um, every year. And we’re about to open for the season in a couple of weeks.

Connie : (08:54)
And, and it’s not only Becca, but my, my son Jesse Fisher is an amazing landscape photographer. And so he and I started really opening the dome for the studio tour and some subsequent weekends. And he would sell his work, and I would sell my metal art metal designs when we could. And, you know, so there were bits and pieces of, of that dream that that came true. But then my mom moved from Los Angeles here with her dementia. She did pass it at the age of 100, but for two and a half years I was taking care of her here in Abaki. And it was amazing that she came here in her, the last two-and-a-half years of her life into New Mexico, because she had been coming here to help me with my four kids when I was camping for 26 years at Ghost Ranch as I was teaching. And I teach welding there and paleontology, archeology, uh, do a lot of music as well. And she would take care of the young babies and strollers and jogger walkers while I would be walking around in this amazing country. And I got my degrees in archeology. So I studied a lot about New Mexico archeologically. And, uh, geology is one of my passions as well. I teach that there at the ranch. And, you know, here I am now living in the area that really inspired my change in life to, from Hollywood. I came from a Hollywood background. I was on American Bandstand for two and a half years, in the seventies. So if you watched that, probably saw me. I even did Raider record a couple times, Oh, fun. . Um, I grew up with, my best friend was Marie Osmond. So the whole Osmond family story was, um, a lot of my, my story is I grew up just walking beside her and tell her went to college. So, um, you know, and she’s still, we’re still in in contact. She has no idea where Abaki New Mexico is, but , she loves seeing pictures, . Well,

Bunny: (11:09)
I think it’s important. I mean, you know, when, when we do these podcasts, I always wanna keep in mind that we have listeners who are all over the world. I mean, we have listeners who are in Scotland and who are in Africa, and I’m really proud of that because we’re only, I don’t know how many, I’m gonna tell you, I don’t know how many episodes in we are, but we do have some international listeners. And so I think it’s important, first of all, I love that you are, we’re best friends with Maria Osmond because, uh, graduated from, I graduated from high school in 1978, and so the early, so the were Tiger. I didn’t, I never knew if

Connie : (11:52)
I was in Tiger beat, magazine. I had an article, my friend Marie .

Bunny: (11:59)
So, I love that. But I also think it’s important for people to understand what Abiquiu is. I mean, Abiquiu has inspired artists for a very long time, and I think it’d be cool for you to talk about that. Yeah.

Connie : (12:15)
You want me to Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, you again, for me, Abiquiu also the name Abiquiu , most people dunno how to pronounce it when they see it written. They’ll say, Abiquiu , right? Or Abi-cookie, or, or they think it’s Albuquerque. So, you know, we’re an hour away from Santa Fe, not too far away, but there are, there’s a, there’s a, see I go, I go for the rocks. There’s a transitional thing that happens within the earth itself. The rocks have split. The Colorado Plateau is uplifted, which to me creates a lot of energy kind of emanating in this place that Abiquiu, where Abiquiu is located. And I think that a lot of artists tap into energies, whether it be the river rushing through the land that has shifted and faulted, um, as well as, you know, there are amazing skies in New Mexico, which are, are not just unique to Abiquiu but, all of these components really draw out that creative spirit in people. For Georgia O’Keefe, when she drove up the Chama Valley, you know, Chama River Canyon, and saw the Ghost Ranch, red Rocks for the first time, that was her home. That was her place where she knew she was supposed to be. And, her whole life had been leading her to that moment. I felt much the same way when, when I saw the Ghost Ranch Abiquiu landscape the first time. You know, there are, there are different places that feed artists in different ways. Abiquiu has such an amazing community of artists because there are so many different things that draw out that creative spirit and allow you to dive into that river of creativity. But that being said, too, there are, besides the art component, geologically, the Abiquiu area is one of the most interesting and unique in the world because of where it sits. And, you know, that’s another podcast, , because yeah, there’s a lot of stories.

Bunny: (14:19)
It is, and I’ll tell you, we used to, my husband and I owned a house in, um, Heron for a while, and, and I loved that drive from Santa Fe. For people who don’t know Heron Lake is between Abiquiu and Chama. But, when I was a child, um, I also had an aunt who was, had a house in Chama, and I remember driving through that Yeah. Landscape, you know at Ghost Ranch and then Echo Canyon. And, you know, I was a six year old and we stopped in the canyon and I thought, wow, I’m gonna have to live here. You know, I grew up in New Mexico, but I thought, I’m gonna have to live here sometimes. So I don’t yet, but that area speaks to so many people in so many different ways. And I’m gonna tell you, I think New Mexico is beautiful every, all, but I would say 98% of New Mexico is beautiful, but I don’t think there’s any part of New Mexico that is as beautiful as Abacus. So there’s my plug.

Connie : (15:21)
Well, also, the, there’s a lot of ancient cultures that, um, their stories of emergence actually happen in the Abiquiu area, in the sacred mountain which is that flattop iconic mountain that GI O’Keefe painted often and said, if she painted at enough time, God would give it to her. So there, there’s a lot going on here in terms of spirituality for every, uh, for a lot of different traditions in that area, especially right there near Ghost Ranch, echo Area. When, when Becca was little, we started coming to, in 1993, we started coming from California to Ghost Ranch on the suggestion of a friend of mine who had been in archeology with me, uh, when I was teaching at, at a university. So I didn’t know what I was getting into. We never stopped coming to New Mexico after 1993. It was a draw. There is something here that is enchanting, invisible magical also tangible things. You can, you can see and hear in the sounds. I, you know, I, when I’m teaching my hiking classes at Ghost Ranch, I am just astounded how people that experience this New Mexico, this northern New Mexico area, and especially the Ghost Ranch ACU area, step into this other world that many haven’t had the chance or opportunity to experience. Um, so, you know, be Becca came as a child here, and yeah, I mean, I felt that even as a little kid, you know, you would, we would run around Ghost Ranch, and it was kind of this safe little bubble, and it was, you know, you went on so many epic adventures and hiking and the lake and just running around Ghost Ranch. And, um, there was just a whole bunch of us that kind of grew up going there for mainly our summers, you know, almost the entire summer. We ended up just extending each summer longer and longer. And then she started teaching. And, um, so that ended up being like our second home, um, growing up. So I would spend, you know, like the entire summer, I think from start to finish, almost at Ghost Ranch camping in a tent camping, yes.

Bunny: (17:42)
What, what, what an amazing place Ghost Ranch is. And I, have, um, a great friend who works there still. Carol Ho.

Connie : (17:51)
She is a dear friend of mine. Yes.

Bunny: (17:53)
Well, I helped them buy their house in Abiquiu.

Connie : (17:57)
Oh. Oh, cool.

Bunny: (17:58)
So, and that is a real testimony to, um, perseverance, because when they, when we were looking at that house, I said, uh, Carol and Todd, this is, I think this is a broken house. And they’re like, Nope, nope. We believe in it. We’re, and they turned it into an amazing place. But yes. Um, I, I want to hear, um, I mean, we’ll provide links so that our guests know we’re gonna provide links to Ghost Ranch, and so that they can check that out and lots of links to the scenery. But I wanna talk about the art piece now because, um, Connie, you, I have this, I’ve kind of had this dream forever of becoming a welder and creating something. And it sounds to me like you did,

Connie : (18:45)
I did. Well, I did, you know, I was, again, my background was in archeology. I was teaching, um, uh, geology paleontology, and, but I saw this art class at Ghost Ranch when they were making metal things. And I thought, gee, that sounds cool. So I took a welding class, and at the time we were down in an area called Pot Hollow. There were ceramics, stained glass welding, and I took the class, and I never put the torch down. It was, it was just like, oh my gosh, this is an amazing process to watch this metal melt, that you’re in control of the heat, the power of the sun to create this thing that, you know, and also from junk, right? So we’re taking scrap and we’re recreating and resurrecting these tossed items, rusty, whatever they are. Um, and so I never stopped that, and I began assisting my mentor teacher Howard Bone Break, um, who eventually was retiring and then tagged me and a few other people to carry on the welding program at Ghost Ranch, which we’re still doing. And we take beginners to advanced artists. We have artists that come from Santa Fe to do class and create things for a week or two. I just, last year started out welding for women, um, opportunity that, that kind of melds not only the, a settling braising, uh, work with smaller objects, but I make figures called She Who Walks With Me, which are figures that I named kind of a spirit journey, um, friends and souls that we make out of different components. And we, so as we’re making these spirit figures, um, as women together, the, it’s amazing what happens, the stories that come out, the healing that comes out, the, uh, camaraderie, that circle of women, you know, burning metal, uh, and not necessarily creating the biggest things that you’ve ever seen, but the most joyous, wonderful journeys that happen as, in art, you know that kind of cleanse the spirit and soul.

Connie : (21:02)
So doing that again this year, uh, in September. But, you know, we teach just the art that happened to me when I came to Ghost Ranch and took the metal class was let life giving, you know, it was something I didn’t ever dream I could do, and I did. And, and not only did it, but people liked to buy my stuff, which was amazing. You know, as an artist, you’re, you have a lot of self-doubt sometimes, like, oh, you know, who’d ever want this? Well, you know, apparently people like what I do. And, or don’t, that’s fine too, but it’s an amazing thing to create something and have someone else see the beauty of it and desire it. So, um, you know, Abiquiu brings that out in a in a lot of people, just like Abiquiu holds a special energy, so does her art. You know, you can definitely feel that when you see her pieces and holds one of her pieces.

Bunny: (22:04)
So let’s shift gears for a minute and talk about what’s gonna happen in May in the dome, because I know that, that the minute when you start talking about this, people are gonna immediately wanna come up and see what you guys are doing in the dome. So, so tell us about that part, Becca.

Becca : (22:21)
Yeah, I mean, we have several artists joining us this season, so not only my mom, my brother’s landscape photography, um, and then we have about seven other artists and artisans that will be joining us. So about 10 total. I myself make these seasonal foraged little bundles, um mm-hmm. , so I’ll be participating in the Dome too. As well as we have a soap maker, a candle maker, um, and then some, uh, I don’t know if you’ve heard of Barbara Clark. She’s a fine art oil painter. Yeah. Out of corals, she’ll be joining us. We’re super excited for that. Her, her paintings are amazing. Um, and then we also, so we show Art in the dome. This season we are also adding, we’ve added an, an extra expansion of a gallery space in a building right next to the dome. We actually just got that put on the property yesterday, . So between now and when we open May 6th and seventh, um, it’s hustle time. So we’re going to be completely transforming that space into a beautiful gallery and shop. Um, and so we are over doubling our space that will be available in the dome now in that second retail gallery space. So, last season we had it was a very, um, creative, uh, endeavor, DIY process. We had, uh, tents up outside, that was where our checkout area was. Um, we had my mom’s, uh, field, uh, paleontology, archeology field van called the Dinosaur Lady Van . Um,

Connie : (24:15)
It’s iconic too. My dinosaur lady Van , but the transmission went, so it went.

Becca : (24:19)
So it still runs in first gear. So we had that out there as a little office on wheels. So it was a whole scene, , and it was very, um, you know, if there was inclement weather or anything like that, sometimes we had to close. So this is just going to be, um, a great opportunity and just leveling up our business, um, and what people will be able to see. And you know.

Connie : (24:47)
We had a lot of fun last year because we had a lot of locals that would pull into the dome and go, oh my gosh, it’s open. What is it? You know, that’s the, the question, what is it? ?

Bunny: (24:58)
And, and I think I have to address what people like me are gonna ask, because I’ve driven past it forever, but it seems rather small. What sort of square footage do you have for display in there?

Connie : (25:12)
Yeah, I mean, it’s 10 by 10, 12 by 12 on the outside. 10 by 10 on the inside. Wow. 10.

Bunny: (25:19)
So, that’s A hundred square feet.

Becca : (25:21)
Yeah. And there’s a window on each side of the dome and the door. So wall space is really limited in there. And, you know, it’s all true Adobe built, um, you know, Adobe mud on the inside, so it’s not the easiest, uh, place to display art, uh, wall art especially. Um, so, you know, we really had to get creative.

Connie : (25:44)
She did a, a great job with the curating and display. We, it was amazing what we got in there without looking jam packed, you know? And yes, that was one reason in this off season, we were trying to figure out what can we do to increase the availability for artists to have their work being shown at the dome in, in Abiquiu, you know? So this, this extra space, although it will be a lot of work in the next two weeks, ,

Bunny: (26:15)
I Can’t imagine. So let’s assume that we’re talking to somebody who, um, is, is coming to New Mexico and they’ve, they can carve out some time to come up to Abaki and maybe spend the night. I mean, where should they, you know, where would you suggest they stay eat, and, and, and what are your hours gonna be and what is opening day?

Connie : (26:38)
Really want, I’ll let, I’ll let Becca say the hours, but I have to say. She, so she just opened a ca, copper Canyon, casita, tiny Home, Airbnb, and it’s fabulous. So you know, first and foremost, of course, we’re going to, um, talk about that. Ghost Ranch has lodging two, the Abiquiu Qin. There are other Airbnbs, uh, of varying, uh, experiences in Abiquiu. But, uh, that’s that. And then the hours and where we’re open,

Becca : (27:10)
Yeah. Uh, so we’re open Saturdays and Sundays from 11:00 AM to 4:00 PM. Um, so just on the weekends sometimes, uh, we will choose to open or, you know, a special event sometimes, like for Ladder to the Moon Music Festival that was held at Ghost Ranch last year. We opened, um, the Friday, the of that day, uh, because it was a Friday through Sunday music festival. So occasionally we may open an extra day, but yeah, Friday or Saturday and Sunday, 11 to four.

Connie : (27:45)
There’s also a lot of, uh, information in the Abiquiu News, which is on Facebook and online. Um, you know, they, every Friday new Abiquiu News, uh, comes out. So there’s updates and things locally. A lot of people come to Abiquiu, they think they wanna spend a night and then move on, and they get here and they’re like, oh my gosh, there’s so much to do. I wish I had more time. And, you know, there’s, there’s a lot of hiking and, and things, uh, going on.

Becca : (28:17)
There are things that you may not know if you’ve have, if you haven’t, you know, done a little research on Abiquiu, you may just drive through and not really know, you know, the little nooks and crannies to go to besides like Ghost Ranch is an obvious choice for a lot of people. But there are other, other places to go, like the monastery, Christ in the Desert Monastery that’s a whole half day adventure, or full day, or even overnight. They also offer lodging. Um, so that is, yeah. Yeah, they do. Um, and it’s a very, um, like if you want just a very, you know, kind of quiet retreat space, time to reflect, that’s a great place to go. Um, a lot of people just go there to unplug. You can participate, I think, in certain activities.

Connie : (29:09)
Um, yeah. And there’s a lot of camping, of course, around Abiquiu not only at Ghost Ranch, but at the lake there’s a campground, and then down below, a lot of people don’t know to go down, drive down the dam, so on the riverside of the dam, not the lake side. And there’s some wonderful picnic areas down there. And then you, uh, a little bit further down the river, you can just pull off the side of the road and camp by the river dry camping, except there’s a river next to you, so. That’s lovely too. But we, uh, send a lot of people there just to enjoy the river and the trees at the right time of the year. Yeah.

Bunny: (29:47)
We’re gonna have a lot of links. I mean, I’ve been writing while you’ve talked all these links,

Connie : (29:56)

Bunny: (29:57)
It’d be great if you could help me with that. But, but I do think, I mean, other than, um, you know, we get to, you know, we get to change our life as we, you know, I, maybe Connie you and I are, it’s a similar age, but, you know, people who think that I, I feel like you are a lesson in, if you feel like your life is, is, um, one way you can certainly, um, make a leap and, you know, learn to weld and move to Abiquiu and become something different. The whole, when you were talking earlier about how you were in Denver and you were in the financial realm, and you had lost your husband at some point, I thought of a quote I saw this morning that said, everything you’ve ever dreamed of is on the other side of fear. And, and I think we forget that, um, fear shouldn’t be paralyzing. It should be a catalyst sometimes, you know, I’m a stage four colon cancer survivor, and the, and that, that year that I spent fearful of, you know, of, of my mortality, it is life changing. I mean, that’s why I’m doing why I do this now, because this is what I love. So I just, I wanna applaud you and Becca, I wanna applaud you for coming to, um, be a caregiver and then becoming another kind of caregiver of your

Connie : (31:25)
Yeah.

Bunny: (31:25)
Curating your moms and your brothers and your own art. So, um,

Connie : (31:29)
Yeah.

Bunny: (31:29)
It, it’s been so much Fun to have this conversation, ,

Connie : (31:33)
Well, I have this, I have this saying, you know, follow your dreams. They know the way…

Bunny: (31:39)
Oh I Love that.

Connie : (31:40)
and , and it’s rarely an easy choice to follow your dream. And, and it does sometimes, you know, I, I always talk about that trust fall of coming to Abiquiu. I had no idea really how I’d make a living. It was crazy for me to leave the job that I had. Had a great home in Lions, Colorado, just north of Boulder. Loved that community. But I knew this was the thing to do. I knew with every ounce and being in my soul that I had to do this, that my life was leading to this time. And, um, and, and look at it, it has fallen into place. You know, it’s taken years too. It doesn’t happen immediately, but, you know, the cultivation of, of the journey. And you know with that too, I wanted to say, I’m, I’m a singer songwriter. I had recorded a CD that a couple years before I lost my husband. And so now when you come to the Dome, I’m giving, you know, CDs are becoming kind of obsolete. If you have a CD player, yay. But you, you get my music for free when you come to the Dome. And that’s still happening. And there’s songs in New Mexico, there’s Song of O’Keefe, of Ghost Ranch, and you can access it online too as well. She did that all for me as well. But again, just everything wrapped up in this package of the ability to use all your talents and, um, for, for me, it’s been, it, yes, fearful, scary, kind of, what am I doing Moments. but also this is meant to be, and it’s the most wonderful thing that has, that I’ve been able to do. And to work with my daughter has been like a godsend.

Becca : (33:24)
Yeah. Really unique, amazing experience and opportunity to be able to do it. And we just feel very lucky. So.

Bunny: (33:32)
Well, I love, I mean, you, you have a lot a, a crazy couple of weeks in front of you, but I really appreciate you took the moment, the, the half hour to visit with me. And we’re coming to Abiquiu. I’m gonna bring my daughter. Who is my producer.

Becca : (33:48)
Oh cool.

Bunny: (33:50)
My producer Johanna. So we’ll be there.

Connie : (33:52)
Oh,

Bunny: (33:52)
Wonderful. Um, yeah, we’ll, we’ll come up and maybe not the first weekend, but I think the second one, , so

Connie : (33:58)
It’s probably, yeah, that’s a good idea. Get our feet under us.

Bunny: (34:02)
. Nice. So thank you so much for being here. And I think it’d be fun to do this again, maybe at right before the studio tour to talk about what’s about you and Other artists.

Becca : (34:13)
Ya that’ll be so fun.

Connie : (34:14)
Absolutely.

Bunny: (34:14)
So, thank You for being here.

Connie : (34:16)
Thank you.